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"Aurora"? / seismic effects / Netherlands

According to some news sources in The Netherlands on 23 June 1994 an aircraft
caused intense seismic effects in the North-Western parts of the Netherlands.

A local radio station suggested that a plane was breaking the sound barrier
thus causing the bang.

The seismic effects were registered by the Royal Netherlands Meteorological
Institute (is monitoring seismic effects). The event should have taken place
over the North Sea some 70 kilometers West of the Dutch coastline and was no
earth quake, was the comment of the institute.

A spokesman of the airbase Soesterberg (former USAF airbase) in the
Netherlands rejected the idea that the seismic effects were caused by aircraft
on exercise.

I remember that the same mysterious quakes have been observed some 2 years ago
in the Northern part of the Netherlands.

So, what is this? Might it be an "Aurora" returning from a mission and
entering the atmosphere heading to the west on its way to Scotland (on the
other side of the North Sea)? If that is the case this may be in line with
observations in the Netherlands of "meteorites" coming in from the East
causing glaring light effects during daytime. These "meteorites" were supposed
to have plunged into the North Sea.

Maybe these are meteorites afterall.

I am afraid I cannot reply to follow-up questions, because the above is all I
know.  

Frank A. Roos (far…@cwi.nl)
CWI – Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica (Centre for Math. and Comp. Sc.)  
Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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Monino.

I just came back after couple weeks in Moscow. I had a chance to go to Central
Museum of VVS (Soviet AirForce Museum) in Monino.
They had quite a few plane there. In closed pavilion one can find La-7 and P-53
(?) Kingcobra which were flown by WWII soviet aces Kozhedub and Pokryshkin.
Besides, there were Pe-2 bomber, I-16 and Yak-9 fighters and rare rocket
fighter (donÕt remember its name) – more traditional analog of Me-163. Next
hall had few ejection seats, aircraft guns (one looked like Vulcan) and Mig-21
cockpit section and engine plus bunch of models and related material. No
pictures can be taken and I found it at least.
Most of the planes are located out on the field. Some planes to mention: T-10
prototype of Su-27 with noticeably different airframe and no engines ; Su-24Õs
prototype with fixed wings and Su-24 itself; predecessor of Yak-36/38 with had
no auxiliary take off engines and only two (!) variable geometry nozzles under
the wings (Yak-? Have it on photo. Look like very fat Mig-15), Yak-28; Mig-9,
-15, -19, -21, -23, -25, -29, -31 (or one of the prototypes of Mig-31. It had
no vertical and horizontal stabilisators and was covered with closes, but one
can see tandem wheels of main gear. This plane was in very bad shape and it
look like it is waiting its hour to be restored.), E-166 (?) record plane which
look like a bigger Mig-21; Su-25, -15, -22; two MyasischevÕs bombers and
spyplane M-17 (?) with sign ÒGeophysicsÓ and Aeroflot marking; Bear, Tu-4, -16,
-22, -22M; soviet version of XB-70 from SukhoiÕs bureau S-100 (?); bunch of
cargo and passenger planes (Tu-114 and supersonic transport Tu-144 are worth to
mention); space plane Buran (has no resemblance on Soviet Shuttle. It is very
small ship with no more than two crew members capable of fitting inside of the
cockpit. Pictures of its recovery from the ocean taken from RAAF Orion were
somewhere in JaneÕs.); Beriev (?) seaplane in Aeroflot markings looked like a
complete goner. It has huge holes in fuselage and no wings and engines attached
(I have a photo of this one). Plane resembles a trimarane with its small
fuselage and couple of tremendous pontoons. Also there was Be-12(?).
Helicopters: Mi-6, -12, -8, -24, YakovlevÕs flying pulman, couple of KaÕs (no
Mi-28 and Ka-50 :-( , BTW, in RussiaÕs mass media Ka-50 called ÒTchernaya
AkulaÓ or Black Shark and not Werewolf.)
It is the best collection of planes I saw so far in FSSSR. Definitely worth
spending few hours. Ticket cost me 200 rubles (about 10 cents). However if you
are not citizen of Russia expect to pay much more.
I had a chance to see Buran space shuttle, which is parked in Gorkii Park.
Somebody decided to open a space cafe in the ship and bought one of the
prototypes of Buran. The space ship was moved from Monino were it was through
with structural testing. The cafe is not open yet because they were putting
wooden flours inside of cargo bay and finishing some other construction.  Buran
covered with ceramic tile: good enough simulation for the structural testing.
Guard let us in for a very small fee and it was impressive tour. I have few
pictures of cockpit and a cargo bay. They plan to put a space simulator in one
of the rooms and serve specially  packed space meals. One of the night guards
was a former participant of the Buran space program and he shared few stories
with us. It is sad that he get better paid as night guard than an employee of
the Construction Bureu (KB).
I shoot some photos but didn’t have time to develop and to scan. If anybody is
interested I can post it.
Cheers. Alexei.

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Re: FUGITVE SOUGHT!

Oh jeez.  this wanted-posted was also posted to alt-politics-org-misc.
I hope the air force isn’t spamming the net with wanted posters now…

        Mike.

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B-24D Electrical Manual (1942)

I have an electrical service and Training manual dated 1942 from
Consolidated Aircraft Corp. for a B-24D for sale to anyone interested.
408-370-7983 or bu…@netcom.com

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usskenedy

seeking information or anecdotes re: USSKennedy or USS Coral.
Reply:  Cable: scu3…@cabell.vcu.edu

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WW II War Training Service

Can anyone tell me where I might find out where a couple of aircraft used
in the WWII CTP or WTS were located? One is a 1941 J3 Cub- NC38337, and the
other A 1941 Naval Aircraft Factory N3N-3, BuNo. 2734, postwar N45222.

I have the FAA microfiche, but these do not cover the ownership by the US
government during the war.

I would also like to find out where a Cessna UC78 (Bamboo Bomber) was based
during the war. It was built in spring 1943 with serial no. 4121, AAF no.
42-7215. It was sold at the end of the war and is now flying in Minnesota.

Jim Anderson
ander…@maroon.tc.umn.edu

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B-52 Crash

I don’t have any details, but I have just heard on the radio that a B-52
crashed today while it and another plane were practicing for an airshow in
Washington St., apparently killing all four crewmembers.

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f11 at low level

Anyone out there have any idea of what the rides like in the
F-111 during low-level penetration?  I’ve talked to B-1B pilots
who say its smooth as glass at 550kts. at 200 ft. AGL.  The F-111
is supposed to be able to fly faster…..Does it have the same kind
of ride "smoothing" features as with the B-1B?

Thanks in advance,

Wade Stipp
Si\Stipp@Wsuhuu

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B-52 Crash?

I picked up part of a news report on the radio early this morning
that reported a B-52 crash at Fairchild (?) airbase, Washington.

Any confirmation/details?

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John E Allen
Internet: al…@sp-oae.demon.co.uk
Compuserve: 100021, 3064
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Re: "Best" multi-role fighter

Best multi-role?
F-15E Strike Eagle, plain and simple.  Most prolific, probably the Phantom.
For its time, the Phantom was overall superior, although I think the F-15E
eclipses it in capability.  There’s just less of them.  
The Tornado may be a good bird, but it does give up payload over other jets
because it has to carry drop tanks.  I’ve never seen one without them.  Also,
it doesn’t have the self-defense armament capabilties of either the Phantom or
Strike Eagle (aka Beagle).  
I want to see a multi-role Tomcat, equipped like the F-15E, rather than this
E/F Hornet mess, or any "proposed" replacement airframe.  The ‘Cat can and
should carry air-to-ground ordnance and realize its full potential.  It only
makes sense, something which we can’t accuse Uncle Sam of having too much of.
Okay, I feel better.  Spleen  vented.  What do you think of an F-14E Bombcat?

Jeb Hoge
TIP#198
Rhodes College  

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