"Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is living
comfortably in a house in northwest
Pakistan close to his deputy Ayman
al-Zawahiri, CNN on Monday quoted a
NATO official as saying.
The Saudi-born militant wanted for the
September 11 attacks on the United
States nine years ago is being protected
by local people and "some members of
the Pakistani intelligence services," the
television network said."
See:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101018/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestbin…












On 18/10/2010 19:23, dumpst…@hotmail.com wrote:
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> "Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is living
> comfortably in a house in northwest
> Pakistan close to his deputy Ayman
> al-Zawahiri, CNN on Monday quoted a
> NATO official as saying.
> The Saudi-born militant wanted for the
> September 11 attacks on the United
> States nine years ago is being protected
> by local people and "some members of
> the Pakistani intelligence services," the
> television network said."
> See:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101018/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestbin…
Do not both to tell the press about the location, just send a sniper.
Someone has to collect the $25 million.
<http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists>
Andrew Swallow
On 18/10/2010 21:46, Juergen Nieveler wrote:
> "David E. Powell"<David_Powell3…@msn.com> wrote:
>>> Do not both to tell the press about the location, just send a sniper.
>>> Someone has to collect the $25 million.
>> I agree. I hipe someone remembers to get that bastard.
> He’d have to dodge quite a lot of bullets on the way – from NSA, CIA,
> FBI… you really think they’d give up the justification for at least
> another decade of budget increases?
> As soon as Bin Laden is dead, there’ll be another "Peace Dividend"
> discussion…
There are plenty of other Muslim who hate the West, they will keep the
fight going. The trick is to get rid of the competent ones since they
are dangerous.
Andrew Swallow
On 18/10/10 20:42, Andrew Swallow wrote:
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> On 18/10/2010 19:23, dumpst…@hotmail.com wrote:
>> "Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is living
>> comfortably in a house in northwest
>> Pakistan close to his deputy Ayman
>> al-Zawahiri, CNN on Monday quoted a
>> NATO official as saying.
>> The Saudi-born militant wanted for the
>> September 11 attacks on the United
>> States nine years ago is being protected
>> by local people and "some members of
>> the Pakistani intelligence services," the
>> television network said."
>> See:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101018/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestbin…
> Do not both to tell the press about the location, just send a sniper.
> Someone has to collect the $25 million.
> <http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists>
How many snipers have you got?
It’s the most hostile territory in the world, inhabited by men who trot
across the mountains fully armed and looking for intruders for a gun
battle, for the entertainment value.
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…
If Bin Laden is alive he and his cohorts can sleep even sounder now
that we have canceled the Nimrod MR4A.
Not so many ears listening for his mobile phone calls and radio
chatter.
NIMROD MR4A RIP Rest in Peace
OBL SIP Sleep in Peace
Be lucky
David
On 20/10/10 22:19, AvgasDinosaur wrote:
> If Bin Laden is alive he and his cohorts can sleep even sounder now
> that we have canceled the Nimrod MR4A.
> Not so many ears listening for his mobile phone calls and radio
> chatter.
Can’t they do that sort of thing with satellites?
Or do you really think that intelligence in Afghanistan is run on a
‘nation by nation’ basis?
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…
On 20/10/10 21:07, Jack Linthicum wrote:
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> On Oct 20, 3:50 pm, "David E. Powell"<David_Powell3…@msn.com>
> wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 5:22 pm, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 18/10/10 20:42, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>> On 18/10/2010 19:23, dumpst…@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> "Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is living
>>>>> comfortably in a house in northwest
>>>>> Pakistan close to his deputy Ayman
>>>>> al-Zawahiri, CNN on Monday quoted a
>>>>> NATO official as saying.
>>>>> The Saudi-born militant wanted for the
>>>>> September 11 attacks on the United
>>>>> States nine years ago is being protected
>>>>> by local people and "some members of
>>>>> the Pakistani intelligence services," the
>>>>> television network said."
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101018/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestbin…
>>>> Do not both to tell the press about the location, just send a sniper.
>>>> Someone has to collect the $25 million.
>>>> <http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists>
>>> How many snipers have you got?
>>> It’s the most hostile territory in the world, inhabited by men who trot
>>> across the mountains fully armed and looking for intruders for a gun
>>> battle, for the entertainment value.
>> Getting Bin Laden is important. Considering Yamamoto got hit they
>> should be able to whack some guy in a fixed house.
> Probably not a "fixed house", more like a compound with several
> residences in it, maybe tunnels and armored rooms to keep him safer.
Several buildings in a compound, he’ll move between several compounds
at random never going outside but getting into a vehicle in a covered
area and only travelling at night.
Almost certainly the local Pakistani government officials and military
will know he’s in the area and will have been both well paid and be
sympathetic to his cause, because if they aren’t, they’re dead…
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…
On 21/10/10 16:27, David E. Powell wrote:
> On Oct 21, 3:11 am, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Several buildings in a compound, he’ll move between several compounds
>> at random never going outside but getting into a vehicle in a covered
>> area and only travelling at night.
>> Almost certainly the local Pakistani government officials and military
>> will know he’s in the area and will have been both well paid and be
>> sympathetic to his cause, because if they aren’t, they’re dead…
> Just find out when he is in the house
How?
and bomb it with B-2s. A salvo
> of penetrator bombs to do in the basements and foundations followed by
> FAEs to pulverize what is left.
Killing people when you know where they are is easy.
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…
On 21/10/10 17:30, Jack Linthicum wrote:
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> On Oct 21, 11:31 am, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 21/10/10 16:27, David E. Powell wrote:
>>> On Oct 21, 3:11 am, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Several buildings in a compound, he’ll move between several compounds
>>>> at random never going outside but getting into a vehicle in a covered
>>>> area and only travelling at night.
>>>> Almost certainly the local Pakistani government officials and military
>>>> will know he’s in the area and will have been both well paid and be
>>>> sympathetic to his cause, because if they aren’t, they’re dead…
>>> Just find out when he is in the house
>> How?
>> and bomb it with B-2s. A salvo
>>> of penetrator bombs to do in the basements and foundations followed by
>>> FAEs to pulverize what is left.
>> Killing people when you know where they are is easy.
> Yes, we did a great job on Saddam Hussein.
Well, you got him in the end…
Mind you, that was a PR disaster…
Question: How on earth do you make the condemned man at a a hanging look
like a hero?
Answer: Employ Arabs to do the execution…
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…
On 21/10/2010 04:10, frank wrote:
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> On Oct 20, 1:41 pm, Juergen Nieveler
> <juergen.nieveler.nos…@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Jack Linthicum<jacklinthi…@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> He’d have to dodge quite a lot of bullets on the way – from NSA, CIA,
>>>> FBI… you really think they’d give up the justification for at least
>>>> another decade of budget increases?
>>>> As soon as Bin Laden is dead, there’ll be another "Peace Dividend"
>>>> discussion…
>>> NSA is a code breaking communications operation, no gun play except on
>>> TV and the movies.
>> If their budget is on the line, they’ll point out that they ARE a
>> military operation and entitled to carry as many guns as they can get
>> their hands on
>> —
>> Juergen Nieveler
> With that level of clearance, the last thing you want to do is get in
> a gunfight. Don’t know much about what you’re talking about do you? IF
> the go somewhere, they have people protect them. They even think there
> is a problem they start destroying stuff. Wanting to break stuff is
> part of the job description.
NSA employs translators, crossword puzzle solvers, computer programmers
and electronic engineers. The biggest collection of geeks and nerds
this side of a Star Trek convention. They get the military, CIA, Delta
Force and FBI to do the physical stuff.
Andrew Swallow
On 21/10/2010 16:27, David E. Powell wrote:
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> On Oct 21, 3:11 am, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 20/10/10 21:07, Jack Linthicum wrote:
>>> On Oct 20, 3:50 pm, "David E. Powell"<David_Powell3…@msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 18, 5:22 pm, William Black<blackuse…@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 18/10/10 20:42, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/10/2010 19:23, dumpst…@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> "Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is living
>>>>>>> comfortably in a house in northwest
>>>>>>> Pakistan close to his deputy Ayman
>>>>>>> al-Zawahiri, CNN on Monday quoted a
>>>>>>> NATO official as saying.
>>>>>>> The Saudi-born militant wanted for the
>>>>>>> September 11 attacks on the United
>>>>>>> States nine years ago is being protected
>>>>>>> by local people and "some members of
>>>>>>> the Pakistani intelligence services," the
>>>>>>> television network said."
>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101018/wl_asia_afp/afghanistanunrestbin…
>>>>>> Do not both to tell the press about the location, just send a sniper.
>>>>>> Someone has to collect the $25 million.
>>>>>> <http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists>
>>>>> How many snipers have you got?
>>>>> It’s the most hostile territory in the world, inhabited by men who trot
>>>>> across the mountains fully armed and looking for intruders for a gun
>>>>> battle, for the entertainment value.
>>>> Getting Bin Laden is important. Considering Yamamoto got hit they
>>>> should be able to whack some guy in a fixed house.
>>> Probably not a "fixed house", more like a compound with several
>>> residences in it, maybe tunnels and armored rooms to keep him safer.
>> Several buildings in a compound, he’ll move between several compounds
>> at random never going outside but getting into a vehicle in a covered
>> area and only travelling at night.
>> Almost certainly the local Pakistani government officials and military
>> will know he’s in the area and will have been both well paid and be
>> sympathetic to his cause, because if they aren’t, they’re dead…
> Just find out when he is in the house and bomb it with B-2s. A salvo
> of penetrator bombs to do in the basements and foundations followed by
> FAEs to pulverize what is left.
That will kill bin Laden but will not produce proof that he is dead.
With a legend we need to prevent every Arab with a beard doing a "I am
Spartacus" on us.
Andrew Swallow
On 21/10/10 18:07, Andrew Swallow wrote:
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> On 21/10/2010 04:10, frank wrote:
>> On Oct 20, 1:41 pm, Juergen Nieveler
>> <juergen.nieveler.nos…@arcor.de> wrote:
>>> Jack Linthicum<jacklinthi…@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> He’d have to dodge quite a lot of bullets on the way – from NSA, CIA,
>>>>> FBI… you really think they’d give up the justification for at least
>>>>> another decade of budget increases?
>>>>> As soon as Bin Laden is dead, there’ll be another "Peace Dividend"
>>>>> discussion…
>>>> NSA is a code breaking communications operation, no gun play except on
>>>> TV and the movies.
>>> If their budget is on the line, they’ll point out that they ARE a
>>> military operation and entitled to carry as many guns as they can get
>>> their hands on
>>> —
>>> Juergen Nieveler
>> With that level of clearance, the last thing you want to do is get in
>> a gunfight. Don’t know much about what you’re talking about do you? IF
>> the go somewhere, they have people protect them. They even think there
>> is a problem they start destroying stuff. Wanting to break stuff is
>> part of the job description.
> NSA employs translators, crossword puzzle solvers, computer programmers
> and electronic engineers. The biggest collection of geeks and nerds this
> side of a Star Trek convention. They get the military, CIA, Delta Force
> and FBI to do the physical stuff.
But as a rule their operators are military.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_careers#Military_Intellige nce_Branch_.28MI.29
I assume that if operating in the field they’ll do their own local
security, but they’ll almost certainly have some big strong boys along
just in case things get nasty.
–
William Black
Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog…